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		<title>Amy Thomson: Virtual Girl</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like this book very much &#8211; I just read it again after many years. It is the story of a &#8216;virtual girl&#8217; &#8211; which means a robot girl in this context. Created by a human in a world which had had some very bad experiences with AIs which lead to the prohibition to all [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this book very much &#8211; I just read it again after many years. It is the story of a &#8216;virtual girl&#8217; &#8211; which means a robot girl in this context. Created by a human in a world which had had some very bad experiences with AIs which lead to the prohibition to all respective research.</p>
<p>The creator Arnold is, though the sun of a rich father, living in the streets of a future US to flee his father and his strong will &#8211; and to pursue AI and robotics research, culminating in a robot so humanlike that it can fool all people. She is called Maggie and her story &#8211; though she is a robot &#8211; is a some kind of story how to become human.<br />
Looking at the humans in the world, with some senses more powerful than humans, she sometimes can understand humans better than humans themselves &#8211; as she is certainly less preoccupied.<br />
It is fascinating to see how she learns about the world and the humans she meets &#8211; how she is drawn to the other AIs on the net because they have a much deeper relationship (faster for example), but still likes to live in the &#8216;real world&#8217;. The story contains also very different responses of humans who eventually find out or get told that she is a robot.<br />
Contained in the story are also some more philosophical thoughts about what makes a person, including what it means to be able to copy one and have duplicates, and what it means to be &#8216;programmed&#8217; &#8211; which basically are the same questions coming up for humans too, if you think about it &#8230;</p>
<p>All in all it is a very positive and quite moving story about robots and AIs, in a more or less paranoid and somewhat dystopian environment of humans.</p>
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		<title>AI Engineering To Singularity</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fascinating article by Ben Goertzel about Is AI Engineering the Shortest Path to a Positive Singularity?: he says that with a &#8216;AI Manhattan Project&#8217; an artificial general intelligence could be built within about 10 years. And this AGI would be the most important building block and accelerator to a singularity, which then could be few [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating article by <a class="externalLink" title="External link to http://www.kurzweilai.net/meme/frame.html?main=/articles/art0701.html" href="http://www.kurzweilai.net/meme/frame.html?main=/articles/art0701.html" target="_blank">Ben Goertzel about <em>Is AI Engineering the Shortest Path to a Positive Singularity?</em></a>: he says that with a &#8216;AI Manhattan Project&#8217; an artificial general intelligence could be built within about 10 years. And this AGI would be the most important building block and accelerator to a singularity, which then could be few years later already &#8230;</p>
<p>There are also a few remarks about free will which I find interesting:</p>
<blockquote><p>The mother of all patterns in an intelligent system is the self. If a system can recognize the coherent, holistic pattern of its own self, by observing its actions in the world and the world&#8217;s responses to it—then the system can build a self, or what psychologists call a self-model. And a reasonably accurate, dynamically updated self-model is the key to adaptiveness, to the ability to confront new problems as they arise in the course of interacting with the world and with other minds.</p>
<p>And if a system can recognize itself, it can recognize probabilistic relationships between itself and various effects in the world. It can recognize patterns of the form &#8220;If I do X, then Y is likely to occur.&#8221; This leads to the pattern known as will. There are important senses in which the conventional human concept of &#8216;free will&#8217; is an illusion—but it&#8217;s an important illusion, critical for guiding the actions of an intelligent agent as it navigates its environments. In order to achieve human-level general intelligence, a pattern-recognizing system must be able to model itself and then model the effects of various states its self may take—and this amounts to modeling personal will and causation.</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>The trick of digital mind design, then, is not any particular way of representing, recognizing or enacting patterns: it&#8217;s creating a pattern-recognition system, by hook or by crook, that can recognize some critical key patterns: self, will, reflective awareness. Once these patterns are recognized, then some critical recursions kick in and a mind can monitor itself, shape itself, improve itself. The question is how do we get a pattern-recognition system to that point, given the available computational resources? This is the question to which my Novamente AI design is intended to give one possible answer.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>W D Hillis: Intelligence as an Emergent Behavior or, The Songs of Eden</title>
		<link>http://4nomore.net/2007/02/hillis-thesongsofeden/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hillis considers here that intelligence might be a symbiotic phenomenon, exemplified with apes having the ability to copy, and songs starting to evolve ontop of this substrate.He argues that it could be possible to construct a different artificial substrate which will enable the emergence of intelligence on top of it and gives some estimates of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillis considers here that intelligence might be a symbiotic phenomenon, exemplified with <em>apes</em> having the ability to copy, and <em>songs</em> starting to evolve ontop of this substrate.<br />He argues that it could be possible to construct a different artificial substrate which will enable the emergence of intelligence on top of it and gives some estimates of the needed computational power.</p>
<p>Link: <a target="_blank" title="External link to http://www.longnow.org/views/essays/articles/ArtEden.php" href="http://www.longnow.org/views/essays/articles/ArtEden.php" class="externalLink">http://www.longnow.org/views/essays/articles/ArtEden.php</a></p>
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		<title>Signs Of AI</title>
		<link>http://4nomore.net/2005/12/signsofai/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2005 13:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a very interesting remark in an article Turing&#8217;s Cathedral by George Dyson at edge.org:
 For 30 years I have been wondering, what indication of its existence might we expect from a true AI? Certainly not any explicit revelation, which might spark a movement to pull the plug. Anomalous accumulation or creation of wealth [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a very interesting remark in an article <em>Turing&#8217;s Cathedral</em> by George Dyson at <a target="_blank" title="External link to http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/dyson05/dyson05_index.html" href="http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/dyson05/dyson05_index.html" class="externalLink">edge.org</a>:<br />
<blockquote> For 30 years I have been wondering, what indication of its existence might we expect from a true AI? Certainly not any explicit revelation, which might spark a movement to pull the plug. Anomalous accumulation or creation of wealth might be a sign, or an unquenchable thirst for raw information, storage space, and processing cycles, or a concerted attempt to secure an uninterrupted, autonomous power supply. But the real sign, I suspect, would be a circle of cheerful, contented, intellectually and physically well-nourished people surrounding the AI. There wouldn&#8217;t be any need for True Believers, or the downloading of human brains or anything sinister like that: just a gradual, gentle, pervasive and mutually beneficial contact between us and a growing something else. This remains a non-testable hypothesis, for now. The best description comes from science fiction writer Simon Ings:<br />&#8220;When our machines overtook us, too complex and efficient for us to control, they did it so fast and so smoothly and so usefully, only a fool or a prophet would have dared complain.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed &#8230; and even more provoking, this is said in the context of a description of his visit to Google headquarters.</p>
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		<title>Singularity</title>
		<link>http://4nomore.net/2005/07/singularity/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2005 21:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Best see the Wikipedia page.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best see the <a target="_blank" title="External link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity" class="externalLink">Wikipedia page</a>.</p>
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